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Citizens Repent!
Citizens. This year is the 400th anniversary of Mr. Fawkes rather splendid plan to flatten parliment.

I regret to inform you that under the new terrorist legislation before parliment, fireworks at this time of year will be considered 'glorifying terrorism'.

I would urge you all to go and turn yourselves in, for your 90 day sojourn with neither charge nor trial. Clearly any thoughts of such a celebration are ungood thinking, and must be corrected.

(And I'm only half joking. I wonder if half the country showed up at the nearest police station to 'turn themselves in' for glorifying terrorism, that might make the point)

Edit: Another thought just crossed my mind. Would a 'war of independance' count as an 'act of terrorism'?
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From: feanelwa Date: November 3rd, 2005 09:24 am (UTC) (Link)
You have a very good point there.
tenuous From: tenuous Date: November 3rd, 2005 09:25 am (UTC) (Link)
Nice plan, but aren't the celebrations to commemorate the fact that they failed to terminally rearrange His Majesty on that date?

We do burn the Guy, after all?

sobrique From: sobrique Date: November 3rd, 2005 10:26 am (UTC) (Link)
Celebrating success or failure is still celebrating an act of terrorism. Ok, so perhaps that's into hair splitting territory, but I _can_ see that as a possible interpretation.
sobrique From: sobrique Date: November 3rd, 2005 10:33 am (UTC) (Link)
Actually, does a 'war of independance' count as an 'act of terrorism'?
tenuous From: tenuous Date: November 3rd, 2005 10:41 am (UTC) (Link)
It depends which side you're on.
sobrique From: sobrique Date: November 3rd, 2005 01:54 pm (UTC) (Link)
Terrorism is about half a matter of perspective, and about half not :).
I think in an absolute sense 'freedom fighting' would count under one of the more tenuous definitions, and therefore I declared celebrating "independence day" to be illegal.
nuala From: nuala Date: November 3rd, 2005 03:51 pm (UTC) (Link)
Meep!
mister_jack From: mister_jack Date: November 3rd, 2005 10:34 am (UTC) (Link)
It's up there with the new Texas anti-gay statuate banning Texas from recognising "any state similar or identical to marriage" - um, so that would include marriage then, wouldn't it? Marriage being, by definition, identical to marriage.
From: lostdreamer666 Date: November 3rd, 2005 09:49 am (UTC) (Link)
How about turning up at your MP's local 'surgery' session, asking him if he celebrated Bonfire Night, and then placing him under citizens arrest?
crashbarrier From: crashbarrier Date: November 3rd, 2005 10:34 am (UTC) (Link)
thats a very good point.. and of course a good reason to flash mob the police stations. to prove the point. I would write to the news papers about that
jorune From: jorune Date: November 3rd, 2005 11:32 am (UTC) (Link)
A modern response could be:

'Thank you sir, we were running a bit low on the performance targets for that crime, now if there any other crimes you'd like to confess to you can inform the duty sergeant. This month we're running a special on Anitsocial behaviour at bus stops.'
mrph From: mrph Date: November 3rd, 2005 06:42 pm (UTC) (Link)
Would a 'war of independance' count as an 'act of terrorism'?

If you lose it, yes. While you're fighting it, probably. Traditionally, it's only when you win that it becomes a 'war of independance', after all...
necessitysslave From: necessitysslave Date: November 4th, 2005 12:53 pm (UTC) (Link)
I would have though it was the method of fighting which determined whether freedom fighters were terrorists or rebels. eg a relatively small number of people using large scale scare tactics to cow a populous into taking a particular course of action versus fielding an army which defends/attacks a ruling regime in a particular nation.
mrph From: mrph Date: November 4th, 2005 05:39 pm (UTC) (Link)
When you're in occupied territory - even when it's your own country - do you really field an army? Where geography allows, you might have a guerilla force in the mountains/jungle, but that's still a relatively small number of people using scare tactics.

A better measure might be to ask whether the general population agrees with the aims, if not the tactics - and whether the terrorist/rebel scare tactics are aimed squarely at the occupiers, or just at EveryoneWhoDoesNotAgreeWithUs.
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