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sobrique
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House arrest?
Well, then. So when you're told by the law lords, that indefinite detention without trial of foreigners is illegal, what is your reaction?

Apparantly, it's to announce new legislation to allow house arrest, also without trial.

Is it just me, or has the home secretary completely missed the point? It wasn't the 'locking them up' bit that was the problem. By all means, if they've been naughty, put 'em in prison. It was the 'without a trial' bit that was the real problem.

And if the home secretary decided he doesn't like you, then ... well that's it really. If we wanted security, if we were to just shoot everyone on the MI5 suspect list, then that'd probably work. Oh, yeah, so you might get a few innocents, but our security would be improved. The problem is, there's some lines that should not be crossed. Powers of the government to lock people up indefinitely, without a trial or evidence is one of them.

You don't put your money in a fire, to stop people nicking it.

(And sadly, this isn't a white rabbit post.)
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karen2205 From: karen2205 Date: January 27th, 2005 10:49 am (UTC) (Link)
Ahh, but you're missing the point. Our esteemed Home Secretary thinks that he can get around the 'disproportionate' part of their Lordships' judgements by applying the same rules to British citizens that are applied to foreigners.....

House arrest for British citizens merely suspected of involvement in terrorist activity....give me strength. Such a provision is highly likely to be considered incompatible with the rights enshrined under the ECHR - particularly Article 6 - the right to a fair trial.
sobrique From: sobrique Date: January 27th, 2005 10:58 am (UTC) (Link)
This is true. They were looking to be using another 'opt out' of the Human Rights convention.

Whilst I appreciate there have been a few 'almost sham' cases brought under human rights (like the person who claimed her moving to a house near an airport violated her human rights), the EHCR isn't just an inconvenience, to be ignored when it's convenient...

That's the scary part I guess.

Hmm, time to use http://www.faxyourmp.com/ again I guess.
crashbarrier From: crashbarrier Date: January 27th, 2005 12:24 pm (UTC) (Link)
travesty of justice..

our government suck mightily

but we haven't got a guantanamo bay........ yet
crashbarrier From: crashbarrier Date: January 27th, 2005 12:24 pm (UTC) (Link)
actually i wonder if Isle of man could be classed as such????
badriya From: badriya Date: January 28th, 2005 11:26 am (UTC) (Link)
My older daughter is a frequent protester, womble, anarchist, setter-up of occupied social centres, supporter of protests against immigrants being locked up or ripped off, and she and partners are frequently harassed already in what are dubious police moves.
I think ability to use house arrest would be used more frequently and easily than Belmarsh, and will result in more injustice. I could see it being used to immobilise troublesome protesters.



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